Centre Mainsheet?

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25 Jul 2006 18:24 #19301 by Charlie Pearson
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<font face='Comic Sans MS'></font id='Comic Sans MS'>There is a rumour that the class is considering a centre mainsheet. Is this true? Has anyone tried it/rigged it? Is it likely to be accepted?

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25 Jul 2006 18:48 #12442 by Charlie Pearson
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<font face='Comic Sans MS'></font id='Comic Sans MS'>I'm not sure how many people reply to their own messages, but I have now found some old messages on this subject, so I may not need an answer but...any comments would be gratefully received. Is it likely that the centre mainsheet will be adopted?

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18 Aug 2006 09:15 #12511 by GarethT
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I'm thinking of rigging mine with a centre main, just so my sone can move between his Oppie and the Mirror without getting too confused.

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18 Aug 2006 14:21 #12514 by Tim Cushion
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As a casual Mirror cruiser I’m totally unqualified to offer an opinion - but that’s never stopped me before so:

The practical aspects of using a centre main in the Mirror puzzle me. There seems to be little enough space forward for the crew, and putting something else in the way won’t help much when crossing sides?

If we want to increase the attraction of Mirrors then I reckon the use of a gnav would improve things greatly. Certainly my two would enjoy not being sliced in two by the kicker. Although its more of a problem for me now that the kids insist on helming.

Also, as another way for improving the Mirror as a learning tool, how about allowing the use of an adjustable traveller on the transom? This would give aspiring Olympians and bored Dads something else to fiddle with.


“Better drowned than duffers if not duffers wont drownâ€

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30 Aug 2006 16:22 #12611 by Charlie Pearson
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We have now tried the system and raced for a week this summer with the centre main (having sought permission from the Race Officer). Another boat tried the system too. We both found the system to be very good - I had (alternately) a 10- and 7-year old helming, both used to Oppies - with no major problems. Indeed, it was much easier for me to recover the situation (generally a lost mainsheet) from the crew's position than would have been the case with the rear main.

I am 6ft4in and no lightweight. I found that I fitted under the boom/between the main and the vang well enough - in fact I couldn't really tell the difference from a rear main.

I hope that the centre main is approved soon.

Now, if we could get the starts, beats, mark-rounding and boatspeed sorted, we would be invincible.

Next summer we try the GNAV!

Charlie P

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31 Aug 2006 11:52 #12615 by shampton
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I'm thinking of adding a trapeze, asymmetric and hydrofoils to a Mirror.

Has anyone tried this?

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31 Aug 2006 12:25 #12620 by LevanteIRL67592
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I'm assuming you were being sarcastic, but Aussie boatbuilder John Collove has rigged a mirror with a trapeze and a masthead assymetric spinnaker, as well as a huge centreboard and (reportedly) a bigger, carbon, rig.

The hydrofoil is probably a bit beyond him at the moment though!

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31 Aug 2006 13:23 #12623 by shampton
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never let it be said......

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31 Aug 2006 21:52 #12627 by flyingpig
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My aim is to fit the Flying Pig out as a fully rigged galleon, preferably with a cannon and grappling hooks to hitch tows from passing speed merchants. No one else at the club single hands with 3 sails, but just in case a rival should emerge, why not add a bit more canvas just to distract the opposition?

pigs can....and do.....

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31 Aug 2006 22:07 #12629 by shampton
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Flying pig...this has already been done.

Around 30 Mirrors were converted to galleons of the English, French and Spanish fleets to re-enact the Battle of Trafalgar last year on the River Hamble. Mine was the Spanish flagship the Santa Ana.

I can let you have photos if you like to model your modifications on.

p.s. our firing canon made out of a drainpipe will, i reckon, contravene Rule 2 if used to prevent overtaking.

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01 Sep 2006 00:31 #12630 by LevanteIRL67592
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Another handy one is to keep shackle pins handy in the boat to throw into your opponents. If done cleverly, they will spend ages sitting head to wind as they frantically try to find which shackle has worked loose!!

I was a very evil junior!!



Edited by - levanteIRL67592 on 01 September 2006 12:32:27

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01 Sep 2006 11:35 #12631 by trw999
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We always keep a Super Soaker handy! Especially useful whilst out on the course waiting for the wind to fill in prior to a start. When used in an international fleet you get some pretty amazed looks from the foreign boat crews!

It is kept in a watertight compartment, custom fitted with a foam cutout and space for extra "magazines"! James Bond rather likes it this way.

Tim...007

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02 Sep 2006 12:32 #12640 by flyingpig
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Not sure about the shackle pin trick - I already have quite a few shackles missing their pins, so no spare pins available. Does it work just as well the other way round?
I'd love to see the Mirror Galleons in action - and I'm sure a few others would too! Any chance of getting them on the website via the gallery?

pigs can....and do.....

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02 Sep 2006 12:35 #12641 by RD 500
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As a casual Mirror cruiser I’m totally unqualified to offer an opinion - but that’s never stopped me before so:

The practical aspects of using a centre main in the Mirror puzzle me. There seems to be little enough space forward for the crew, and putting something else in the way won’t help much when crossing sides?

If we want to increase the attraction of Mirrors then I reckon the use of a gnav would improve things greatly. Certainly my two would enjoy not being sliced in two by the kicker. Although its more of a problem for me now that the kids insist on helming.

Also, as another way for improving the Mirror as a learning tool, how about allowing the use of an adjustable traveller on the transom? This would give aspiring Olympians and bored Dads something else to fiddle with.


“Better drowned than duffers if not duffers wont drownâ€

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02 Sep 2006 17:56 #12645 by shampton
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Will try and get pics of Mirrors dressed as galleons on the site.

In the meantime have a look here

http://www.bursledonregatta.co.uk/ and click on 2005 memories.

The galleons really are Mirrors underneath!

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